STEPHENS: "...Donald Trump may be doing his greatest disservice, which is he may be making Democrats lose their marbles. If Democrats are going to win, they need message focus, they need an optimistic strategy for the American people. they need to show that they're not just interested in humiliating Trump, they're interested in making things better for Americans."
RUHLE: "Why would a Democrat listen Bret Stephens, conservative columnist?"
STEPHENS: "Well, I know how conservatives think. And I've seen many of these elections before. Look, one of the reasons I’m at The New York Times is I’m a Never-Trumper....I do not want to see Donald Trump re-elected. I want to make America sane again. I want a president that I can respect. And I’m offering genuinely friendly advice."