CHUCK TODD: What, what the former vice president though was saying is that this is sending, you know, first it sent a chilling message to African-Americans and, and Jewish folks on his message on Charlottesville. Pardoning Arpaio looks like it is a thumb in the eye to Hispanic-Americans.
GOV. JOHN KASICH: Well, I'll tell you, I am worried and concerned about these ICE folks that go into people's homes and they grab mom and dad and try to ship them out of the country and they leave the kids on the front porch. Look, we talked about this in the campaign. I was one of the few voices that--I said a lot of things that didn't happen, tear up the Iran deal, you know, we're gonna--we’re gonna throw everybody out of the country, we're going to ban all the Muslims. Yeah, sort of funny because I was on the stage and I was saying, "No I don't think that's the way you do public policy." And what you find is most of the things that have, that are being done, a lot of them are being reversed, okay, or they haven't happened. In terms of the targeting of people that are in this country, look, we don’t--when people illegally got in here, we don't condone that. But if they've been in this country and they have not been committing crimes and they've been actually building businesses and being part of their community, going and grabbing them and shipping them out, that doesn't bring our country together. Look, I think at the end, Chuck, we keep talking about the president. You know, maybe starting with the flood business, it is time for us to figure out what institutions we're a part of from the bottom up that can bring some unity in this country. We don't have to keep looking to Washington. Everybody focuses on Washington. What about everything else happening in this country? Whether it's, it’s gauging profits by businesses or whether it's putting sports figures on the field who did improper things or whether it's the clergy that does things that are out of bounds. I mean, nobody's looking for sainthood. But the whole country needs to come together and stop looking at Washington. Figure out what you can do as part of your entity to raise the country and bring some unity.