RATHER: "Well, it’s momentous moment, and a very ominous moment. Because depending how far President Trump can go and how effective he may be the rest of the way, this can make the United States second tier in terms of world leadership, at least on this subject.
"And by the way, I totally agree that Russia and Saudi Arabia are the big winners here, but also China is a big winner because the Chinese are — they seek to spread their influence, particularly in western Europe, do business there. The Chinese are big winners.
"Steve Bannon is a big winner. Steve Bannon is back big-time in the White House. In the showdown in the White House between the globalists and the nationalists, Steve Bannon and the nationalists won.
"But I do think, Lawrence, it’s something else at work here with President Trump. And William Marshall wrote some of this on the Internet today. And that is, from the outside looking in, it seems clear that he is mad. He has some rage. He is scared. What did he do with Russia narrative is closing in on him. Still, the investigation is about his tax returns are closing in on him.
"He just came back from this European trip, and he was angry with the leader of Germany, Ms. Merkel, and the new leader of France. What you have here is a president who is lashing out in anger. We haven’t had a president this psychologically troubled — I’m trying to use my language real carefully. We haven’t had a president this psychologically troubled in this way since at least Richard Nixon. And remember we're still very early in the Trump presidency."