EXCERPT:
GRANHOLM: “Yeah. I mean, you’ve got a president though that is now talking about this issue of pardoning. There’s a reason why there is precedent for can a president pardon himself. It’s because no president in the history of the republic has had the audacity or the moral depravity to think that he is above the law. If he did, let’s just assume that he does something dramatic like that, he would throw the country into a constitutional crisis. You would have that going up to the Supreme Court. He has appointed the fifth vote on the Supreme Court. Anthony Kennedy, please stay on. If he did that, Congress would step — you’d see the Kraken rise up. Congress would step in."