HEILEMANN: "Well, first, Joe, I’ll say that, literally, before we started the program, I was saying to Chuck Rosenberg sitting here, can you explain to me how this is different from what Jim Comey did in — what we think of 2016 as Comey I, his first intercession in the election, in the case you’re referring to in July, I think, of 2016, when he did what you just said. I, like you, am old enough to remember when prosecutors either charged someone and issued a charging document, or they issued a declension. And declension was one sentence, which is, 'We decline to prosecute.' Chuck will talk about something I don't know much about, and the difference between back in those days when we had the independent counsel statute and what we have now, when we have the special counsels and what the regulations are and what they have to do. I will say that without — there’s no doubt in my mind that this special prosecutor could have written the same report without using these words: 'Elderly man with a poor memory.' Like you, I’m a simple country journalist. I can find a lot of different ways to say this without saying something like that."