EXCERPT:
KASICH: "They're things that I -- you know, I've always done in my career. You know, I had a mother that taught me to stand on my own two feet and sometimes to speak out but I've never meant any of the times to be personal in -- in my criticisms or concerns."
MURRAY: "Did you make that clear to the president in this meeting?"
KASICH: "Well there was never really anything that came up and when I made the comment that look, throughout my career when I agree with something I speak out and when I don't, you know, I -- I can criticize it if I'm not being self-righteous. And one of the voices in the room said yeah, we noticed but that was -- and we all kind of laughed."