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CUOMO: "I'm trying to figure out what's going on, lavar. Why would you push back on the president.
BALL: "You can open your eyes and see what's going on. I'm not saying nothing to the president. I'm not just saying thank you to anybody for nothing. I had some things done, I talked to some other people that did some things too.
CUOMO: "Who?"
BALL: "It doesn't matter.
CUOMO: "Sure, it does."
BALL: "It's not big names like you're thinking of. People are saying, I said it wasn't a big deal to have my son was shoplifting and nothing like that, I'm saying, it wasn't a big deal, because being raised in south central L.A., I've seen harsher things, I've seen 16 en17-year-old kids have to go to jail for life that were my friends. Doing bad things, making bad decisions, doing stuff that's harming people.