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VELSHI: "I mean, Jen, people don't even want to watch clips of Donald Trump on our shows. The feedback we get when we do that. But I think McKay hits a very important point. The urgency of Trump, the potency of Trump, the danger of Trump, and I think McKay is right. People I talk to do treat him as a quirky abstraction, as opposed to possibly the guy who's going to help oversee the demise of democracy in America."