NANCE: "And I write extensively about that in the book. In fact, it was Luke Harding at 'The Guardian' who came out with the first indicators that Donald Trump had been under Russian intelligence surveillance for a very long time, as early as 1977 with his first wife Ivana. Ivana was from the Czech Republic, which at that time was Czechoslovakia. Their intelligence agency, the STB, had her communications between the United States and the Czech Republic under surveillance and they knew an enormous amount of information about Donald Trump between 1977 and the mid-‘80s. And then in the mid-80s Donald was starting to express an interest in building Trump Tower Moscow. But more importantly, he was — the word from her family that he was trying to consider running for president against George Herbert Walker Bush who was, of course, the former director of the CIA and the vice president of the United States. So Russia became very interested in him. They had ten years of collection and then they brought him to Moscow for what he wanted, which was Trump Tower, but from that moment on, an enormous dossier of information was collected on him and more importantly, how to exploit him. And his simple exploit, as we call it in the intelligence community, he is avaricious to a fault. He wants money. They now, in the modern Russia, with a former KGB director as president, they have money, they know how to exploit people, they know how to manipulate people, and they know how to buy people."