EXCERPT:
WALLACE: “And because this is not — this is seedier than John Dean territory, he literally knows where is the bodies would be buried.”
BUTLER: “Yeah, and he’s worked with President Trump for a long time, you know, New York real estate, taxi medallions, all that, it’s down and dirty business. And so again, Trump is very anxious to kind of resist the threat, but Trump has very few options as well. He can pardon but even if he pardons Cohen --"
WALLACE: "He'd be forced to testify."
BUTLER: "Yeah, he could be forced to testify."