TODD: "Is it fair to say whatever Congress hands him he'll sign. He just may not be enthusiastic about it?"
MULVANEY: "I don't think so."
TODD: "You can't -- we can not definitively rule out a government shutdown at the end of the week?"
MULVANEY: "You cannot and here's why. Let's they the Democrats prevail and the hard core left wing Democrats prevail. It was a Democrat congresswoman who put out a tweet yesterday about $0 for dhs. So let's say that the hard core left wing of the Democrat party prevail in this negotiation and it's a low number for the wall, he can't sign that."