EXCERPT:
RUHLE: “Ben, walk us through this. It’s crazy to me.”
COLLINS: “Yes, so here’s what we know. We know that this is a meme that’s been around — it’s — basically it’s a picture of an ISIS flag but instead of the flag itself, instead of the Arabic script, there’s — there’s like, fake naked ladies on there and it says, ‘get ‘er done’ on it. It’s — It’s —“
RUHLE: “What does that mean?”
COLLINS: “It’s a Larry the Cable Guy joke. It’s like — it’s not that sophisticated. This is not a smart thing. It’s a troll, is what it is, right? It’s meant to sort of symbol — like symbolize that he’s on one side. This is from a conservative meme parody website from 2014. It’s been around — it’s pretty obscure meme. It’s not like — it’s not like those big alt right troll memes. This was a very — like very specific blog from 2014 that really didn’t get a lot of traction.”
RUHLE: “Then tell me a little bit more about the group behind the meme, who are they, what do they represent?”
COLLINS: “Yes, it’s just some guy, really. It’s a guy in Scottsdale, Arizona, who made a — who made a meme in 2014. It’s been around, like, conservative, like, web forums. Not like young people. Like, 4chan stuff. I’m talking, like, you know, people who follow the Drudge Report and Fox News and stuff like that, it’s that sort of circle. So that — that’s what you’re seeing right now. This is not a — this is not a meme meant to, you know, ascribe any sort of direct malice. It’s not a real great clue. But it does show you what part of the ecosystem he at least drew this one image from.”