On her Next Question podcast, Katie Couric, the former anchor of NBC's Today and CBS Evening News, mostly commiserated with PBS chief executive Paula Kerger, whose network is under fire for is undeniable liberal bias that’s caused an existential crisis under the Trump administration which is aiming to cut its taxpayer funding. Yet Kerger refused to even consider the bias argument when she was finally, gently confronted by Couric (who doesn’t believe media bias exists) almost a half-hour into the podcast.