EXCERPT:
SWALWELL: “We also, as it relates to the June 9 meeting, we have strong evidence that Trump and Cohen talked almost daily about campaign stuff and so, again, when you take circumstantially what we know about that relationship and how close Trump’s office was to Cohen’s —“
HARLOW: “I understand what you think. But I'm just asking, do you have hard evidence that Michael Cohen lied to your committee about anything else, hard evidence right now?”
SWALWELL: “We have circumstantial evidence which is treated the same in the law as direct evidence.”