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KERNEN: "And that harkens back to the President Biden's campaign vow to put the fossil fuel business out of business. And -- and he said that -- he said, 'Read my lips, we will put fossil fuels out of business.'"
GRANHOLM: "I -- I did not hear him say that. I think the president --" [crosstalk]
KERNEN: "Oh, I could -- and just look at YouTube."
GRANHOLM: "We all do."
KERNEN: "It's on YouTube."