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APPLEBAUM: “And you’re right, we see that pattern in many countries, and we’ve seen it happen all over the world. I was just recently in Venezuela where I was working on an article for “The Atlantic” which is where I work now, and we were watching impeachment, and a lot of the people I was with were saying, my goodness, some of this looks so familiar, we had Hugo Chavez, a dictator, and he behaved much like Trump. He insulted his opponents, he was rude, he was crude, that made people think he was authentic. He pushed back against the press, against the media, against judges. And eventually he led to a decline of the system which has led Venezuela into a really extraordinary crisis.”