EXCERPT:
BIDEN: “Here’s the deal. One of the things is that it’s very difficult now to have a, um -- even with notable exceptions, even the really good reporters, they have to get a number of clicks on nightly news."
KIMMEL: "Mm-hmm."
BIDEN: "So instead of asking a question, anyway, it’s just everything gets -- gets sensationalized in ways -- but I’m convinced we can get through this. We have to get through it. And one of the things -- look --"
KIMMEL: "I’m going to take a break and then we’ll talk a little bit more. If you don’t mind."
BIDEN: "I don't blame you."