EXCERPT:
STELTER: "I think there are some rivalries going on, some criticism of him, there's a lot criticism of him about how he handled the harassment complaints against Roger Ailes."
AVLON: "Yeah."
STELTER: "Whether he was a part of the problem at Fox News, whether he covered things up. So there's been an issue of whether Shine is the right guy for the job, frankly whether he'll be hired by any other company --"
BERMAN: "There's irony in that, right? Because he can't get hired --" [crosstalk]
STELTER: "-- even though the president wants to hire him at the White House."
BERMAN: "-- he can't get hired anywhere else except at the White House."
STELTER: "It's a very strange thing. And you know, I think yesterday we saw one of the president's conspiracy theories debunked about this Democratic IT staffer. That was an idea propped up by some Fox host and 'The Daily Caller.' That was debunked by the Trump Justice Department. So what did the president do? He moved on to other theories instead. I think it's comforting to think that he just doesn't have the right information, it's comforting to say, oh, he just didn't know the truth, because the alternative is worse."