EXCERPT:
HOGG: “I mean, I think the fact of the matter is the DNC is always going to be like a campaign arm of the president ultimately. The bigger issue was, like, the inner circle that was around Biden. That’s it.”
JONES: “And I can’t stress — I can’t stress to you enough.”
HOGG: “Like, Joe Biden’s chief of staff, like, had an enormous amount of power.”
JOURNALIST: “Jill Biden?”
HOGG: “Jill Biden’s chief of staff.”