EXCERPT:
KARL: "I — first, I would say that people around him say he's running. I mean, they say it's 100 percent, he's definitely running. But I actually am — I'm doubtful about that. I think that he's going to want to make us believe he is running because it keeps him relevant, it keeps him — it keeps generating attention for himself. But I'm not sure he really wants to do it again. I think that for all his delusion about 2020, the last thing he wants to do is to lose again."