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HEILEMANN: “Is there an example anyone can cite where Republican senators on any basis have ever stood up to Donald Trump on anything he's really wanted? I don't think Trump is going to back down on any of these nominations. I think what Dasha reported is the tone, which is Trump thinks that to back down, to withdraw, to listen to 'The Wall Street Journal' would just be weakness. He is -- this is about trying to break the Senate."
BRZEZINSKI: "Yeah."
HEILEMANN: "He is trying to make the Senate explicitly his rubber stamp going forward and --"
BRZEZINSKI: "Yes."
HEILEMANN: "-- demean and diminish the legislative branch."
BRZEZINSKI: "I was --"
HEILEMANN: "He wants to strip them of advice and consent. He wants them to be his Duma. And that is -- and so I think he's going to push it as hard -- and we'll see whether any senators -- but there's -- stand up to him, but there's no history of it."
BRZEZINSKI: "It's a great question."
HEILEMANN: "There's not a precedent for it."
BRZEZINSKI: "I was going to ask you to shut up, but actually that was a very good point."
HEILEMANN: "Thank you."
SCARBOROUGH: "Wow. She's so rude."
HEILEMANN: "Yeah."