EXCERPT:
PENCE: “When it comes to the Justice Department's decision about -- about -- about bringing charges in the future, I would hope that they would not bring charges against the former president. I -- I don't -- look, I -- as I wrote in my book, I think the president's actions and words on January 6, were reckless. But I don't know that it's --"
PERINO: "Criminal."
PENCE: "-- it's criminal --"
PERINO: "Got it."
PENCE: "-- to take bad advice from lawyers.”