EXCERPT:
COLLINS: “First of all, lies on the Internet move faster than the truth. And that's in part why there are all these safeguards that Elon Musk is trying to take down on Twitter right now. The lies that were pushed were from a bad piece of information they found. For example, they said that Paul Pelosi was in his underwear. Of course, he was, 2:30 in the morning at the time he was attacked. They -- that led them to believe this was a lovers' quarrel between two different people that knew each other. The reason they believed they knew each other is because the police put out a statement saying that they didn't really know who opened the door. So they -- that led them to believe there was a third person in the house. So from there, there was this world building on the pro-Trump Internet. What could be the opposite of reality here? And the opposite of reality they came up with was these two people were having a lovers' quarrel in a house and the police sort of intruded on us. It's fundamentally incorrect. It was pushed by the richest man in the world. And then yesterday, it was pushed by Donald Trump Jr., who posted a picture of underwear and a hammer and said it was a Halloween costume for Paul Pelosi. If we don't cut this out right now, not just the normalization of violence, but the idea that reality can't even exist anymore because it cannot catch up to lies on the Internet. I'm not a scholar on authoritarian history, but I've -- I've read Hannah Arendt. I've read all of these people."
BRZEZINSKI: "Mm-hmm."
COLLINS: "This is how it gets really bad. This is the start of something that gets really, really bad. If you are getting the guardrails off the truth where it literally cannot catch up to the lies on the Internet, because of how the pipes work, how the system works, because of the incentives of the richest people in the world then that's how you lose your democracy."