EXCERPT:
SULLIVAN: "The use of a nuclear weapon on the battlefield in Ukraine is the use of a nuclear weapon on the battlefield in Ukraine, and we're not going to slice the salami."
BASH: "Whether that's -- does that -- does that include just detonating it in the Black Sea?"
SULLIVAN: "Well, first, the Black Sea includes the ports of Odessa and other cities from which the Ukrainians are currently exporting grain to the world market. So the notion that, somehow, there's differences in use here, I think, is a dangerous notion.”