EXCERPT:
MEIJER: "It‘s a massive defeat for China, too. I mean, that‘s — that‘s the reality. Like, we are — we always think we‘re at the center of things, and a lot of ways that we are, but when it comes to the Strait of Hormuz, the amount of energy the U.S. is getting from that is negligible. It‘s in the low double digits. Our natural gas — "
BOOT: "Our gas at the pump has gone up over over $4 a gallon because of the energy crisis."
MEIJER: "Yes, yes, we‘re still below where we were when Russia invaded Ukraine."