EXCERPT:
CARLSON: "He said that out loud?"
BOBULINSKI: "Yes, he said it directly to me, one-on-one in a cabana at the Peninsula Hotel after about an hour and a half, two-hour meeting with me asking out of concern how are you guys doing this, aren’t you concerned that you're going to put your brother's future presidential campaign at risk, the Chinese, the stuff that you guys have been doing already in 2015 and 2016 around the world, and I just can almost picture his face where he sort of chuckles and says 'plausible deniability.'"