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GEIST: “Joe, you and I have talked about this. I have smart people, who I respect and in many cases I love, come to me and ask me why you and I and Mika don’t talk more about Italian satellites that were impacting voting machines and things like that. And you look at them and say, 'Are you serious?' That’s a click away, to find that information, but to your point, it lines up with something they want to believe. And yes, the leadership has been terrible on this from the top, from Donald Trump all the way down, perpetuating these lies. But in this age of information, yes, there’s a lot of bad information out there, but the truth is there if you actually want to find it. Tim Alberta, that leads me to my last question to you before we let you go, which is you write these profile pieces, you study deeply, you look at the country, there are so many people in America, tens of millions of them receptive to these ideas that there are conspiracies at work, in this case keeping Donald Trump from the White House. What is your sense of how this country can turn it around, if it can? Does Trumpism stay with us forever in many corners of the country?”